I think that the fact that "the window won't bludge " can be compared with Frank's attitude taking into account what follows in the scene. He won't change his position towards drinking or improve himself although , according to Rita , he has "a lot going for him". I guess by this, Rita means all his knowlwdge and his job at university which is what she admires.
From the educational poit of view, sometimes this concept of "the window which won't bludge" can be reflected in different ways: for instance, a teacher who does not modify his or her position towards new or different methodologies to be applied in order to improve her or his task. Or else, the attitude of some students who would not cooperate although they see some teachers really make the effort to insert them in an activity or a class or society...
On the other hand Frank feels, as it happened with Julia, that Rita will go away some day and he has nothing or nobody to fight for. It is not worth changing for him because he cannot see any purpose in doing that. It might happen to teachers as well as to students that sometimes it is not worth making the effort either to help or to accept some help as the world won't change because of our actions. However, they cannot see the results beyond the actions.
As regards Rita's comment " you don't do Blake without doing innocence and experience", shows a turning point in this students who has bloomed and grown. And Frank saying "of course" as an answer shows he has realized Rita was able to change and grow in education as she wanted. Frank's reaction does not seem to be a satisfactory to me, his comment seems to be sort of melancholic, as if he did not really want Rita to change....
Might it happen that sometimes teachers conscious or unconsciously do not want our own students to grow....?????
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Another post overloaded with worth-discussing thoughts, Silvia... You're making it tough for me to choose what to focus on, believe me! ;-)
1. Who's now teaching whom? If Frank's being a "poor learner", can Rita still go on learning from him?
2. Teachers and students do indeed drift apart sooner or later... So the idea that they should change for each other does not make much sense, or does it? And as for "changing the world" just by ourselves... :-? Alternatives?
3. When talking about the window, Rita goes back to slang language. How does this fit in the context of the "new Rita" who has chosen to speak "beautifully"?
4. Finally, it seems Frank now's started to behave much like Rita's partners in previous scenes, "afraid" of Rita's growing... What might be underlying?
All the best,
Gladys
I believe Sita is still in the process of learning, though she is ecoming aware of how much she's learnt ang grown up to now. I guess in a moment she 'll see she does not need Frank anylonger and she is totally ready to face the world. On the other hand, I think Frank is totally aware that her "departure" is going to happen soon.
Secondly, I believe this kind of "departure" is not a complete one. We always learn from teachers, the old ones and the new ones, either by being in contact with them or recalling their teaching....
In the thirr place, I guess Rita's slang lg. coming back refelects her essence which will never leave her.
As regrds Frank's feelinings, as I've mentioned before, I think he is aware of the Rita's growth and he knows ther are going to drift apart soon. I believe there are more feelings than teacher-student he might feel and this might make him feel melancholic. When she's ready to face the world he i going to lose her.
What do you mean by "Rita's essence", Silvia? It'd be interesting if you compared your idea with Lucía's view on this...You've used the very same words, though I'm not certain you've meant the same!
One last thing: have you noticed the contradiction between the sad feelings you believe Frank naturally associates with Rita's eventual "departure", and the success this is supposed to mean for him? To what extent does this apply to all teacher-student relationships, in your view?
Big hug,
Gladys
On the one hand, I think Lucia's view and mine resemble in the way we meant essence as Rita's real self. Her feelings, attitude, what she has inside her. Luci's report refers to the ways she would act and react at the party, maybe quite different from Frank's friends because they belong to different social classes, they might not share a topic to discuss with Rita. What I meant in my report by her essence refers to her inner self beyond her behaviour or comments in a party. Anyway both of us coincided on her essence being different from the people who sorrounds Frank, either friends or students.
On the other hand, as regards the contradiction you mention, this reminds me of the end of the year at school, you see how much your sts have grown and learnt, you've also learnt from the group, you have faced challenges in which one might have succeeded or needs to go on working and it is kind of melancholic to see them go, but that is life , that time is a mixture or happiness and melancholy.
I'm a bit puzzled by the fact you say "Rita's essence will never leave her", while at the same time you say by "essence" you mean "her attitude and feelings", which are bound to change once again as she goes through life, Silvia... :-?
The reason why I go back to this is the connotations I see "essence" suggests: as if Rita had been born different from Frank's acquaintances at the party, and no matter what she does, nothing will ever make her alike!
Is that what you've been trying to convey?
Big hug,
Gladys
NO I guess at the moment of the invitation she will have nothing in common with those people, not later on...
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